An Interview with Tuukka Kuru of the Blue-Black Movement
Europa Terra Nostra author Sascha Roßmüller recently conducted an interview with Tuukka Kuru, leader of a new Finnish nationalist party called the Blue-Black Movement (Sinimusta Liike) – the name for which derives from the Finnish inter-war era anti-communist organization.
Tuukka was born in Rovaniemi, but moved to Western Finland a couple of years ago after he graduated with a degree in Engineering. Since Tuukka lived most of his life in his home region of Lapland – a land almost equal in size of Hungary, with less than 180,000 inhabitants – Tuukka´s surroundings were virtually 100% White and he did not realise the importance of the immigration question prior to the 2015 migrant crisis. During that time, Tuukka lived near the Swedish border and saw the immigration waves with his own eyes. It was a turning point in his life, as he left previous liberal-leaning political groups and started attending anti-immigration rallies all across Finland.
After six years of activism, he had attended, organized and acted as a speaker at numerous nationalist events in Finland and many other countries. Tuukka also became one of the main organizers of the Awakening Conference, which has been organized twice so far. The third event had to be postponed due the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, but the conference will go ahead as per usual once the bulk of the restrictions have been lifted.
ETN: Tuukka, you are chairman of a newly-founded nationalist party in Finland that just recently managed to become officially registered. So, please, tell our readers what lead to launching that party, why did you estimate it necessary, how did the process of registering work and what development do you experience in the first phase?
Tuukka Kuru: Our party project tries to answer one specific question that cannot be seen often in mainstream political discussion – how can we ensure the existence of our people and our unique Finnish nationhood in the upcoming decades? Our political landscape lacks an alternative, which rejects the modern, overly-rationalized economic narratives, and bases its policy on solely on blood, soil, and faith. That does not mean that we don’t care about economics, but we want to subjugate those policies under nationalist-oriented supervision. We don’t oppose private ownership or private companies per se, but they have to adapt our nationalist views as we want to defend Finnish professionalism, worker rights and environment against cheap foreign labor, multinational companies and stock market manipulations. We had to create a party which combines the state-centered economic policies – a.k.a. social Democratism – with staunch nationalist values. Our current conservative parties are solely interested on economic growth, which is not enough to ensure our existence as a distinct people. All of our current left-wing parties promote EU, multiculturalism and open borders, and they have already abandoned the White working class. As you can see, there is an ecological niche for us to take. Party registering process took over three months, as we had to wait for Ministry of Justice‘s approval for our project. We had to cut down some of the most extreme policies from our program, but it is still fiercely ethno-nationalist entity.
ETN: Let´s take one step back and explain your personal political career, as well as your current projects, besides the new party.
Tuukka Kuru: I started my political career as a right-wing libertarian, who supported free markets, gun rights, freedom of speech and low taxes. I had somehow critical view on immigration – especially Islamic one – but I was not able to make any conclusions about the issue. I somehow hid under the economic arguments, which separated the unwanted non-productive immigration – mostly Islamic immigration – from the model minorities – like the East Asians – as many of the young conservatives did back then. I was also fierce supporter of Israel, as I unironically saw them as our ally against the global Islamic jihad against the West. Everything changed when the refugee crisis happened. I matured in my worldview and lost all my faith on the libertarian arguments, which were unable to handle ethnic conflicts between the different groups of people. I met our current party secretary Terhi Kiemunki in 2015 when we both attended to Shut the Border demonstration in the border city of Tornio. I joined the True Finns Party youth wing in 2017 and was kicked out 14 months later after the first Awakening conference. The whole youth wing was disbanded just two years later when it became too ethno-nationalist and therefore burden to the main party. Many of our current activists has been members in the True Finns Party before we started the Blue-Black Movement.
ETN: What are the most important issues established Finnish politics are failing? How is especially the situation on migration comparable to other European countries, and what´s your strategy to, at best, get into perception as an alternative?
Tuukka Kuru: Our non-Finnic population rose to 8.5% of the population in 2020 and the numbers are even worse in younger generations. Some of the daycare centers and schools are over 50% foreign, with the rising number of Somalis, Arabs and Afghans. Most of the immigrant population is centered in just five largest cities, where they resemble majority population in some problem-ritted districts. We have rising number of stabbings and severe robberies in Helsinki and they are mostly orchestrated by the violent Somali and other non-White gangs. Situation is still not hopeless. Finland is at the same time the most “racist” and the happiest nation in EU, according to studies, and our people have positive view on our World War II veterans. Even though we lost the war, we never faced the same kind of de-Nazification as Germany did. Most of the people feel still somehow connected to our national entity, even though our media and academia tries to promote liberal poison to our younger generations. Finland opened her borders to non-White immigration just 30 years ago, so it is still very modern phenomenon. No one can declare that “Finland has always been African”, as the first Somalis came to Finland only after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Most of the Somalis and other non-Europeans still have their former citizenship, so it would be legally possible to send them back if we have enough parliamentary power to execute that action.
ETN: Let´s delve a bit into the political system of Finland and electoral procedures. Are there chances for a just recently-founded party in the nearest future to gain parliamentary seats nationwide, or at least on a regional or local level? Moreover, what´s the overall strategy regarding benefits for nationalists, even if remaining just a minority opposition for quite some time? In other words, is your self-perception limited to the parliamentary roadmap?
Tuukka Kuru: All our members are active also in the non-parliamentary field, as we organize demonstrations, music events and conferences as our main duty. Our party is an important tool, carefully engineered to our parliamentary system where we will apply the doctrine “every seat for us is one less for them”. Parliamentary positions help us to gain legitimacy in Finnish society and increase our raw power in power politics. Our electoral system is a bit harsh for the newcomers, but still more fair than in Anglo nations. Even now we have some independent members in the Finnish parliament, so it is not impossible for us either to get some candidates through in 2023 parliamentary elections. Most important question is the total number of candidates. We try to extend our presence to all electoral provinces with maximum number of candidates to boost our chances. It means around 200 candidates altogether. It is harsh task, but still possible. For every gained seat, party needs around 12,000 votes. Those votes are far easier to get with full candidate lists.
ETN: There are often historic burdens between neighbouring countries and Finland had its experiences with Russia – respectively, Soviet Union. Nevertheless, today it is the Western transatlantic mainstream that behaves globalist/imperialist and rejects ethno-nationalist views, while Russia is a relevant geopolitical actor of multipolarity. How does your party handle that issue?
Tuukka Kuru: Our party program states that Russia is political and military threat to Finnish nation. Even though they maintain the facade of conservative and White nationalist policy, current Russian political system persecutes the Slavic ethno-nationalists and supports the historical legacy of Soviet imperialism. Ethnic Russians are facing the same replacement as the other White nations, which can be seen in the growing number of Central Asian Muslims inside the Russian borders. We should also remember that Kremlin officially celebrates Victory Day annually with huge anti-fascist media campaigns. Even though the liberal West is decadent and hostile to our existence, so is the East. We must find some better solutions for building up the united front against the rising power of China.
ETN: Last, but not least, what´s your party´s stance on European concern? Is the European Union an option for organizing co-operation between nation-states or do you favor another vision of Europe? Moreover, is your party internationally connected?
Tuukka Kuru: Our party supports Fixit and secession from the United Nations. We want to maintain bilateral diplomatic and economic ties between friendly nations and co-operate with them when necessary. Our closest ally in the ideal world would be Estonia and Sweden. I would like to see some independent European defense system designs that could compete against the growing power of NATO and Russia. Universalism and cosmopolitan entities, like the EU, should be disbanded wholly because they are built on wrong premise of liberal democracy and they lead all European nations to a common mass grave. In perfect world, all White nations would be led by nationalist governments who have allied with themselves against the rising tide of color.
Of course, Finland is just one of a majority of European nations which are facing existential crises from the threats of the left and centre. We, as Europeans, despite our past historical burdens, must stand together to face these threats head-on. The new Finnish Blue-Black Movement is just one of several new nationalist organisations which are emerging onto the political scene in order to bolster European nationalism against the ever-present threats of those who wish to see true Europeanism stamped out and replaced with the destructive ideology that is Cultural Marxism and its strand ideologies.
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