Europa Terra Nostra Vice-Chairman Sascha A. Rossmüller recently sat down for a very interesting interview with one Jean-Francois Gariépy. Hailing from Canada, Gariepy is a political dissident and content creator who broadcasts his show, JFG Tonight, on an almost daily basis on platforms such as Odysee. In 2008, the Society for Neuroscience awarded Gariépy the Next Generation Award, and in 2012, Gariepy completed a doctoral thesis in French. Over his scientific career, Gariépy published 21 research items that were cited 529 times by external academics. In 2018, he published his book The Revolutionary Phenotype, which argues that artificial intelligence, genetic engineering and other advances could potentially lead to the eventual destruction of humankind.
ETN: First of all, could you please inform our readers with regards to the factors that ultimately led to your engagement in politics? What are your main political activities/projects? What is your recent book about?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: I’ve always been interested in politics as the most complex expression of human social behaviors. I see politics as the crucial arena where moral preferences clash and where final authority over others’ behaviors gets determined. When I left academia, I got interested in covering politics as part of my news show because I saw a media landscape that was systematically subordinated to the priorities of the technocrats, the warmongers and the left in general. The rise of individually-produced media gave an opportunity to produce a different kind of media that would be closer to the needs and thoughts of the consumer, rather than being subordinated to the requests of the elite. As part of my rise as a podcaster on the internet, I’ve published The Revolutionary Phenotype, which is a book that presents my theory of the emergence of life. The theory of phenotypic revolutions explains why life exists, why we have a genetic code made of three layers (DNA, RNA, proteins) and predicts the existence of similar genetic codes in alien life forms, if we are ever to discover them. Importantly, my theory identifies a massive danger in today’s human scientific endeavor – it shows why species that engage in genetically modifying themselves end up replaced by the machines they use for such modifications.
I left academia because the kind of theory I tend to pursue is simply too big and too revolutionary for them to be appreciated by people in universities, who prefer opting for safe and steady academic pursuits, which tend to support the current scientific thinking rather than revert it. My theory was way too big for me to pursue it in this kind of network, so I left and I published it on my own. By such publication, I hope to create a path for thinkers who are ostracized in current academia, especially young white scientists who are seeing the system become progressively more racially biased against them. We are at a point where the university prefers affirmative action to a genuine pursuit of the truth, and therefore we must create other avenues where knowledge can be carried forward and improve. I believe that self-publication of science is one of those opportunities which, in time, is bound to become a major path for young scientists, since the academia has been taken over by special interests.
ETN: You hail from Canada, where we witnessed not only vast protests against highly restrictive COVID-19 measures, but also severe repression by the Canadian Government. How are things now in your country with regards to the pandemic?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: Canada is a highly contrasted country with a sick governmental system that encourages the technocratic management and control of people’s rights, but it is also a vast country with plenty of uninhabited land. As such, the medical dictatorship that has risen in our country is applied with various degrees of zeal, from the communist provinces like Quebec, where it is applied harshly, to the more socially conservative areas and countryside, where enforcement is close to inexistent. So freedom-loving Canadians are desperate when they look at the massive oppression of rights that we have seen, which recently was described by the Albertan new Prime Minister as the most important mass violation of rights that she witnessed in her entire life. However, there is a silver lining in that freedom-conscious Canadians have already fled the areas where the technocrats have taken over, and they have developed a parallel existence for themselves. Across Canada, the pandemic was an opportunity to fortify local groups of freedom-loving people, who have not stopped only at resisting the insane medical dictatorship, but extend their interests toward homeschooling, independence and networking. „What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger“, and it is good to see that the government has mostly failed at pushing their narrative for more than a year, but have resulted in positive resistance that will outlast the pandemic itself.
ETN: Let us stick to Canadian politics. There is a perception in Germany that Canada is one of the countries with the strictest immigration laws. Is that true, or how does the problem of migration and foreign infiltration factor into the country’s crime statistics?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: Canada does not have strict immigration laws. It is as close as you can be to an open border country, where our Prime Minister is actively soliciting migrants to come to Canada – even the migrants that are rejected by other countries, like the US. That being said, Canada is a nation that lives in the luxury of natural isolation. There is no way to get to Canada from the north, as it is too cold, and the US is protecting our southern border. Then, oceans are covering our western and eastern borders. So despite the desire of the political elite to bring as many migrants as they can, we are not faced with waves of walk-in migrants who come here with nothing. The simple fact that you need to be able to afford a plane ticket or a boat ticket to get here means a more filtered migrant population automatically. That doesn’t mean that immigration is not a problem. There is a massive contingent of Arab Muslims, Indians, Eastern Asians and Africans who are still making it to the country and who are concentrating in various areas – mostly the highly-populated cities. So at least we don’t have uncontained flows of walk-in Hispanic migrants, as is the case for the US southern border, or Turkish and Greek migrants, as is the case for Europe. That being said, we still have overpopulated areas in big cities that make life intolerable for people, and that develop[s] into cultures of higher crime and gang activities.
ETN: You are a video blogger with your own show, JFG Tonight, which means you surely will have faced repressive measures. What do you think about the development of cancel culture, especially with regards to deplatforming, demonetisation, etc.? What are the ways out of that „digital gulag“ as you‘ve once labelled it?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: Cancel culture and deplatforming is the immune reaction of the liberal system to the validity and truth of our arguments. It was not so long ago that rationalist thinkers were bragging about the merits of the free market of ideas, of a liberal society where everything could be said so that people can make their own mind. The mask fell off pretty quick when the technocrats in power realized that some people were willing to speak the truth about demographics and other subjects that they wanted to keep under the rug. In the early days of internet video, creators like me rose to fame just by reporting on the obvious truths that the system wanted to deny. Censorship then came to make sure that people like me never get success on Twitter or YouTube, two platforms on which I was too successful to their taste.
The digital gulag works for a while, and it effectively makes life complicated for anyone pursuing the truth, but there is an evitable backlash. Just like Canadians have been responding to the violation of their rights by organizing, a parallel internet economy has also developed where censorship is not the norm. The backlash will become even more pressing for the people in power when the government e-mails requesting the censorship of individual Americans get exposed and when the collusion between the vaccine companies and the so-called anti-hate groups gets revealed. Over the long run, censorship as it operates in this moment is unsustainable for these companies, who already failed at making a profit before the censorship. As they alienate more of their user base and the parallel internet rises, we will see all of them fall, and we will be stronger than ever when that happens. The absolute domination of a single platform on the internet can last at most 5 to 10 years for big platforms like Facebook. Smaller websites rise and fall within an even shorter period, as was the case with MySpace. So it is only a matter of time before these platforms that seek to bend the argument lose their user base, and with it, their control over public discourse.
ETN: Let‘s have a look at the Occidental world in general – culturally, geopolitically, and demographically. How do you analyse the situation and what is your conclusion regarding the strategies that nationalist activists should follow?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: The Occidental world is dying by a thousand cuts. On the domestic side, culture, media and knowledge have been taken over by special ethic interests, who have put together a corrupted system of selection which allows them to reserve all state funds dedicated to research and culture toward leftist advancements. On the side of geopolitics, the American Empire is weakening itself as it promotes, internally and externally, a hate for Americanism and for the foundational population – white people. Concurrent to this, any success on [the] military front is subordinated to the security interests of other nations, such as Israel or, more recently, Ukraine. Europe finds its elite so subordinated to the American Empire that it basically self-destroyed economically through COVID lockdowns, and then a second time through an economic war against Russia, which heightened the costs of survival dramatically in Europe. All of this is done because the European elites are not representing their population. They are rather doing what needs to be done to please the USA. European countries are not sovereign from Europe and Europe is not sovereign from the USA. Meanwhile, policies across these nations ensure that within 50 to 100 years, the native populations will have been completely replaced by leftist voters coming from poorer nations. I have some degree of admiration for the nationalists who want to restore a traditional and ethnic conception of their country, but unfortunately I cannot be as enthusiast as they are about their ability to succeed. I believe that the political fight for demographic stability has been lost in most Western nations, and that the only strategy that can work going forward is reconcentration of white populations around centers of convergence. In the USA, this may mean moving to Republican states. In Canada, it may mean moving to the countryside. In Europe, it may mean changing country. There is a feedback loop between politicians being careless about the border and these very migrants who eventually become leftist voters. I believe that combating this loop, which has been in operation for plenty of time already, is ultimately a lost cause. Although I’d be happy to be proven wrong about this.
ETN: Unfortunately, the world is witnessing yet again a fratricidal European conflict, the Russo-Ukrainian War, where there is – for the moment, at least – no continental beneficiary. What are your views as a Canadian on it all? Also, if I am correctly informed correctly you have translated a book on geopolitics by a French historian?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: Yes, I’ve translated from French to English Philippe Fabry’s History of the Next Century, [which is] a brilliant book which has anticipated the current situation between Russia, Ukraine, Europe and the USA in stunning details, many years in advance. I’ve heard many nationalists refer to the Ukraine-Russia conflict as a fratricidal conflict, and this presumably is some knee-jerk reaction by people who are content to look at one’s skin color to determine ethnicity, and who probably has a poor understanding of the Ukrainian situation. The current regime in Ukraine is not European at all. It is formed by a Jewish elite of technocrats who are willing to be puppets to American NATO interests and who have decided to sell their country and nation to these interests. It is a very similar network of interests that have subverted American foreign military actions for the last few decades to seed terror in the Middle-East in the name of Israel and the USA. In general, I think the Ukraine-Russia conflict is important because it will determine the extent of influence of the American Empire on the planet, and where the Empire ends to leave place to an alternative empire, formed loosely by Russia, China and other smaller nations. Given the fact that Western states have been subverted for so long, I believe native European populations have a general interest in seeing Russia be victorious, since Russia constitutes a balancing force against the very regimes that oppress us. Of course, I do not harbor delusions that Russia can on its own combat the entire American Empire, but it is one more force that can work against it, combined with this Empire’s own self-destruction from the inside.
ETN: I have learned that you promote the idea of ethno-states as an alternative to existing nation-states. Do you believe that it is too late to save historic nation-states, or is that line of thought meant to serve as a strategic retreat – a „redeployment“ for a reconquista, so to speak?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: I do not promote any idea. I discuss ideas, and yes, I think that over time there may be immigration and reconcentration patterns that allow the birth of a new nation along some ethnic lines. I do not believe in reconquering anything, since by the time whites become racially conscious, we will be an absolute minority pretty much everywhere, and such conquest will not be feasible. It is, in fact, this status as a minority that will force whites to realize their difference and their ethnic interests. This realization will likely come too late to reconquer any land where, by then, Asians, South Americans, Africans and Arabs will have become dominant. That being said, I have explored hypothetical possibilities, such as the idea that Antarctica could warm up and leave place to some form of colonization. Whites may also find places where the climate is so harsh that there is no need to conquer, but simply colonize, such as the Arctic Circle and Alaska. These regions are low enough in population that they could be great destinations for people fleeing the rise of socialism. They offer tranquility and put man up to the challenge of surviving against cold, rather than the harsh competition to survive political and social parasitism in hotter climates. If it is true that the planet is about to warm, it seems that this possibility is bound to become more feasible by the day, and it might be a great opportunity for the European drive to innovation – collaborative societies to express itself in a fight against nature that other peoples would not want to engage in.
ETN: Last, but not least, is there a political party of relevant potential in Canada that stands for genuine ethnic nationalist interests and traditionalist values?
Jean-Francois Gariepy: There is basically no ethno-nationalist party in Canada. There is a party called the PPC which has tried to surf on the wave of populism in politics, but it is not a party that recognizes racial consciousness as important. It merely suggests a slowing down of current immigration rates. Even this party is the subject of hit pieces and is attacked as “far-right.” I do not believe in any short-term political solution based on persuasion. I believe the only thing that will make the current system fall is extenuation under its own weight. As a controversial thinker and author, for me, this has meant to flee to a secret location in the Arctic Circle with my family, where we have been living a very happy isolated life for many years now. The state of rights in populated areas has been under attack, where we see lack of due process for white people, attacks on the family by public institutions and persecution of right-wing thinkers. To me, this was unviable, so we moved to an isolated area where such things do not happen. Philippe Fabry predicts a situation similar to the fall of the Roman Empire for America, but this would be about 100 years into the future. To attain this fall, the gross bureaucratization of the American Empire and its conversion into a totalitarian technocracy must occur, and it can only happen progressively. In Fabry’s view, overly militaristic empires, such as Rome, and now America, must attain levels of totalitarianism that make life impossible for their citizens before they completely crumble under their costs, the unfairness of their justice and political systems, and the absence of innovation that comes from the disappearance of a free market as they convert toward extreme forms of socialisms.
It’s interesting to ask what will happen of the West if it takes the same direction as the Roman Empire. In short, one must look at what happened to the previous empires that form parallels with today’s society – Italy and Greece. Everyone has heard of Ancient Greece, but what is Greece now? A country of minor importance in the geopolitical scheme. Everyone has heard of the greatness of the Roman Empire, but what is Italy now? Just like Greece – a country of minor importance. Moreover, one can hardly make the case that the people inhabiting these countries today are the same as those who lived there when they were great. I imagine the same will happen with Europe. Just like Greece, it will retain the names of its cities, but they will be largely sacked of anything that made them great. European peoples of both Europe and America will be dispersed by personal pursuits, racial hatred and political persecution. The genetics of these peoples may survive loosely in unpopulated areas of the world or in the form of a diaspora spread across multiple more inhabited areas. According to Fabry, European history has gone through 3 occurrences of a cyclic structure, where a Civilization of Type A, built around culture (Greece), gives birth to a Civilization of Type B, built around military domination (the Roman Empire). The last occurrence of this cycle would be Western Europe giving birth to America, the militarily-dominant Empire. Fabry believes that the next civilization to achieve dominance around culture will be Asia, in the same way that Western Europe rose freely after the fall of the Roman Empire. Asia certainly has a similar structure to Western Europe then – it has stable demographics and it outnumbers the militarily-dominant empire of its time, the USA. All that it needs is a few political fixes to basically integrate the principles of Western law and free trade, an abandonment of its collectivism, and it could rise as the next civilizational force that carries some cultural spirit from European civilizations. However, such a rise of Asia would not be one carried by white people, nor would it benefit white people. I guess the best we can hope for is that this transition happens as quickly as it possibly can, and that our nations lose their greatness as soon as possible. Let us not forget that it is the greatness of our nations that attracts so many people here. I say let the sacking happen, and once our countries are nothing else than cold, sterile natural landscapes, perhaps we can stay, while others lose interest in the place. In any case, I see the survival challenge for Europeans as being a highly individualistic one. We will have to learn how to take personal actions and decisions with our families and communities that are not built on the premise that we must convince everyone. We will simply have to create a life for ourselves, as far away as possible from the peoples who are hostile to our existence. Then, we will have to survive and maintain our people through epochs where we will be political minorities. This is why I have given up formal political engagement. Flight in order to survive is, for me, the only productive way forward.
ETN: Mr. Gariepy, many thanks for that extraordinary and interesting interview!
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