Interview with Ivan Bilokapic, Vice-Chairman of Europa Terra Nostra
Ivan Bilokapic, Vice-Chairman of Europa Terra, was recently interviewed by the Dutch organisation Erkenbrand for their blog. The interview gives a deeper insight into the political will of Europa Terra Nostra.
What is Europa Terra Nostra about?
Europa Terra Nostra was founded back in 2015 as a foundation and as an ideological, co-operative and idea-forging basis. ETN was a definitive “call to arms”, and an attempt of showing and signalling that the time for a pan-European nationalist co-operation has come. The motto was "Our enemies work on a global scale. They are very well connected and bound by numerous organisations, parties, inner EU Parliament fractions, and, of course, they are all financially backed”, which was more than enough reasons to try to consolidate the nationalist ranks in Europe. ETN had its office in Brussels and Berlin, it organised several successful conferences and seminars. The biggest and most significant gathering of ETN was in October of 2016 in Wismar, Germany. Conferences are a proven success, where all the guests bind and communicate the most. I think the most valuable thing that comes out of those conferences and meetings is not only the political segment, but the social segment. People meet each other, communicate, exchange ideas and contacts. Friendships are forged, and that is what the most valuable resource we conjure.
Besides conferences, ETN found other ways to bring like-minded people together and offer even unpolitical activities, where people could learn new skills which, in the end, prove to be valuable in promoting our ideas, and present them in a more professional manner. We organised video-making workshops, where people learned to make professional promotional videos for social media. They learned together how to edit their recordings and upgrade their knowledge. We also organised several successful meetings with independent businessmen and businesswomen. They exchanged ideas, contacts, and real business co-operation and projects emerged from it. Europa Terra Nostra also expanded its activities by publishing books. This shows our interest in becoming a recognisable vault of nationalist ideas, where we also give the association an intellectual signature.
Ivan Bilokapic, Vice-Chairman of Europa Terra Nostra
Since early 2020, ETN, however, was re-branded, and our core interest grew beyond the borders of political parties. ETN became a fast-growing home for all nationalists around Europe, regardless if they are affiliated with a political party or not. In my opinion, ETN has successfully put itself on the map as a recognisable home for a modern, potent and promising pan-European nationalism, which is needed to secure our identity, our civilisation, our nation-states and our ethnic survival. The year 2020 was a very unusual and challenging year, where ETN did not have the opportunity to show its full potential by organising events and other planned activities, due to the COVID-19 restrictions and lockdowns. But we are hopeful, and we are thinking about future projects. We expand and grow steadily, and even though we could not organise anything significant this year, we still managed to attract new members. Our website offers new articles daily, and we also have an official podcast named Undertow. The internet and the content we publish seem to appeal with people who, even in this challenging time of isolation, still find their way to us.
On which level do you strive and invoke nationalism, or even regionalism? Where does ETN stand on questions regarding social, economic and political centralisation of Europe?
In the last ten years, we all witnessed enormous social and political changes in Europe and in the West, which, after a long time, revived and set nationalism in a focus of the public. The migrant crisis in late 2014 and 2015, Donald Trump's anti-establishment campaign in 2016, Brexit campaign in Great Britain in 2016 and the rise in popularity of so-called populist parties in Europe signalised a shift on all social levels in almost all European countries. The right consolidated itself and the acceptance of nationalist ideas were never as prominent and visible as today.
All these hardships Europe and the West faced in the past five or six years revealed the horrible state of liberalism and capitalism. The migrant crisis put to the test the politically correct discourse, which was a norm up until then. This politically correct way of addressing issues broke apart even further with Donald Trump naming segments of American society by their real name openly. At the same time, the populist right in Europe has failed in capitalising and utilising the momentum of the Zeitgeist we live in. The falling number of supporters of the populist parties is an indication of their lack of proper action and their failed policy of wanting to play a counter-establishment game by following the rules of the establishment at the same time. This failed utterly, and in the eyes of many, the populist parties turned out to be a disappointment.
Europa Terra Nostra calls for an uncompromising and genuine nationalism to arise in every European country. This means no compromise when it comes non-European migrations to Europe. This implies a laying the foundations of a new economic system which would be of benefit to the people, not corporations, financial institutions or supranational organisations, such as the EU, NATO, UN or IMF. Such a nationalism must be built up from a local level, which then turns regional and then, hopefully, makes an impact on a national level.
An ETN delegation is visiting Slovakia in 2017.
We think that every country is different, and every nation has different principles, different economic and political possibilities, and we advocate that nationalist powers in Europe emphasise those possibilities and build their national economies the way it fits their needs and purposes. We think that centralising Europe is not a good way to solve problems. The EU centralised Europe, and it’s doing everything it can to take away even more sovereignty of the EU member states. This means taking their national currency away, and the national parliaments have to pass on laws made in Brussels. There is one set of rules everyone has to follow. Often times, the smaller nations in Europe simply can't hold up and can't compete in such a system with bigger member states. We see massive differences between East and West Europe still when it comes to the economy. ETN wants a united Europe of sovereign and free nation-states, where every nation manages its economy as they see fit. Monetary sovereignty, political sovereignty and equal partnership in a nationally conscious Europe is something we strive for.
Co-operation between European nationalists is not always an easy task. Two world wars in the last century – which were basically brother wars – still scar European nations to this day, and there is a lot of mistrust. How does ETN deal with those problems, and how do you bring nationalists together?
Indeed, the burden of the past somehow lies on the shoulders of nationalists in Europe, and it is not an easy burden to carry. Two world wars and several other post WWII conflicts on European soil, which have cost Europe millions of their best sons and daughters, have tainted and poisoned the relations between different European countries and nations. Unlike the political establishment, which dismisses these heavy topics, the nationalists in Europe are beginning to realise a necessity to communicate and to resolve these past issues. The most recent conflicts in Europe, which happened from 1991 – 1995, between Croatia and Serbia, or even newer ones between the Ukraine and Russia, prove that past disagreements and differences still can erupt and further damage peace in Europe, if not adequately addressed and resolved. As vice-chairman of ETN, and as a Croatian nationalist, I have made efforts to communicate with Serbian comrades.
Ivan Bilokapic speaks at an event in Brussels in 2019
The need for sober and productive talk has never been greater between the two peoples, but, as I mentioned, we nationalists have the task to make that first step. I have personally found that there is a lot of good and communicative people from Serbia, who were as much as enthusiastic as I while approaching them. Of course, these were just the first steps, but it surely symbolises a lot. There are, of course, painful historical topic which requires even more time to find a way to resolve them, and I am sure we won't agree on everything 100%, but this is a vast attempt of improving relations between nations which spilled too much blood in three bloody conflicts in the past century.
There are, of course, other examples, like the complicated relations between Germans and Poles, Hungarians and Romanians, or Slovaks and Hungarians, and, as I mentioned, Russians and Ukrainians. ETN and our emphasis on communication has shown that it is possible to bring these people together. Comrades from Romania and Hungary are members of ETN, and the first steps have been made where people from these countries have the historic opportunity to start a dialogue which would lead to a normalisation of relations. The Germans and Poles have made huge steps in that regard. A delegation of ETN with German nationalists visited Polish comrades, and it was clear that even though these two nations carry deep wounds from the past, the need of exchange of ideas and communication still prevails. So, we are absolutely continuing to stimulate these kinds of interactions in the future.
Which interesting projects have you done so far, and what can we expect in the future from ETN?
As I mentioned before, since the beginning of ETN, the association has organised numerous conferences, trips, projects and seminars. Book publishing, travelling, communicating, regular online conferences – where people can chat, hang out and strengthen their friendships – are all part of our program. We planned to organise a big conference again and invite well-known speakers and guests from all over Europe. We also planned several trips, but that was all cancelled due to the COVID-19 restrictions. When the situation with the virus gets better, so will our plans for the near future be also more precise, and we will definitely inform all of our members, friends and followers of our future activities, where everyone is invited to participate.
Can everyone be a member of Europa Terra Nostra? What are the benefits of membership?
Growing out of the narrow borders of party politics, Europa Terra Nostra opened it's door to all European nationalists, regardless if they are affiliated with a political party or movement or not. We also expanded our reach outside Europe. We are aware that people of European origins living in North America or Australia or South America, for example, feel like they are a part of our European family, and they indeed are. We really extend our hand of friendship and co-operation to all Europeans, regardless if they live in the Old Continent or outside.
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This pan European policy has drawn to ETN people who are experts in different fields, but who were never party affiliated. So, we have people who went to university, who have their own projects, social media channels, etc., but view ETN as a base for promoting their ideas and enriching our organisation with their knowledge and experience. This also answers the question of what the benefits of a membership are. The friendships forged, the possibility of group travel, the possibility of learning, expanding your knowledge and meeting people from almost every European and White country, the sharing of experiences, the interesting speeches and the feeling that one is truly a part of something that could impact our present time, and, perhaps, kickstart social and political change in Europe, are more than enough to give people a sense that they are part of a growing pan-European family. Our growing membership base is a testimony to what we stand for and what we do.
How important is networking on an identity level for ETN with South Africans or Americans, for example?
We regard South Africans, White Americans and everyone of European descent, regardless where they live, as an inseparable part of Europe. I dare to say there is a strong sentimental and spiritual connection with those people. Especially today, when we witness the brutal persecution and murder of White Europeans in South Africa. Or the systematic oppression and cancerous implementation of anti-European and anti-White propaganda on Whites in the United States. These are all political and social everyday processes that affect us deeply, and we want to make an effort in actually creating projects to help these people in any way possible. So, maintaining and expanding our communication with Europeans outside Europe is of great importance for ETN. Our organisation has the task of providing those people at least the feeling that they are among their own, and that they can feel that ETN serves as a familiar, safe home.
One of your recent articles on your website, Etnostra.com, was about Donald Trump and the elections in the United States? Are you pro-Trump, and what's your opinion regarding the plutocratic capitalist system?
The recent elections in the United States were a disaster, and the results and the aftermath of the elections shown not only to the American people how the system is broken, but to the whole world. The democratic system is in a state of crisis, and it is questionable if it can be fixed? We still have to wait and see what will happen until January 6th 2021, but if Trump steps down, he will be remembered as someone who coined and popularised the terms "deep state" and "fake news", both of which are to blame for the shameful result and election fraud we all had the chance to see ourselves. The American people are the answer to this crisis. If the American people do nothing and accept this obvious manipulation of elections, that will only give the deep state and the fake news the reassurance that they can do whatever they can without any consequences. The campaign to bring Trump down at any cost started in 2016, and it never stopped for four years.
In a combined effort of the deep state, private financial sectors and corrupt media outlets, the American people were robbed of their fundamental right to vote and elect the candidate of their choice. I can say that Joe Biden was not the man the majority of Americans wanted in the White House. The finance sector, the media and the deep state represent the plutocratic and corrupt and failed capitalist system, and, of course, we reject and denounce all of that completely. Donald Trump might not be the best President of the United States, but he is the best option the American people have for now, and I think I speak for all European nationalists who would agree with me on this. But, like I said, we have to wait for January, and see how the American people will react in the end. We hope it turns out for the best.
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